So the Hemi v8 is not completely dead?

[Boris]

Mitsubishi?

I believe so.

A DSM car like the Stealth, Laser/Talon, Sebring etc.
Im not sure if these were built in Normal, IL but its funny that now Rivian builds their truck in that old factory.

Everything Dodge is coming up electric LOL

 

[2ndAmend]

If the platform works why does it have to be changed?

If by "works" you mean "sells", you are absolutely correct! What woke idiot would kill a cash cow?!?! I think I answered my own question.

 

[why2kmax]

4 door will probably be called the Polara. or Polarity since its EV. I assume after a year or so they will move it to the I6 motor and something akin to the jeeps, that is if it even exists. They better keep ICE engines and hybrid plans in their back pocket because by the time Stellantis and GM etc end up on full retard with EVs, they will suddenly realize the whole "everything EV" thing isnt going to work out. It has its place but we cant mine or process enough material to satisfy that kind of demand. Price of the car or energy wont be friendly either and the infrastructure, will take far longer than people are willing to wait. eh anyway thats off topic.

 

[ButterDaGreat?]

4 door will probably be called the Polara. or Polarity since its EV. I assume after a year or so they will move it to the I6 motor and something akin to the jeeps, that is if it even exists. They better keep ICE engines and hybrid plans in their back pocket because by the time Stellantis and GM etc end up on full retard with EVs, they will suddenly realize the whole "everything EV" thing isnt going to work out. It has its place but we cant mine or process enough material to satisfy that kind of demand. Price of the car or energy wont be friendly either and the infrastructure, will take far longer than people are willing to wait. eh anyway thats off topic.

I fully believe one of the big 3 will go bankrupt and we will be the ones to foot the bill and bail them out again

 

[Boris]

4 door will probably be called the Polara. or Polarity since its EV. I assume after a year or so they will move it to the I6 motor and something akin to the jeeps, that is if it even exists. They better keep ICE engines and hybrid plans in their back pocket because by the time Stellantis and GM etc end up on full retard with EVs, they will suddenly realize the whole "everything EV" thing isnt going to work out. It has its place but we cant mine or process enough material to satisfy that kind of demand. Price of the car or energy wont be friendly either and the infrastructure, will take far longer than people are willing to wait. eh anyway thats off topic.

I like the Polara name.

But to your other point, GM is making Buick dealers install EV charging systems etc or they take 500k and stop selling them.
Ford also wants 500-900k to fit in EV charging at their dealers to sell the EV cars.

What is Dodge/Stellantis doing? I haven't heard a peep about dealers needing to pay up to install EV equipment for this new Charger.

 

[why2kmax]

I like the Polara name.

But to your other point, GM is making Buick dealers install EV charging systems etc or they take 500k and stop selling them.
Ford also wants 500-900k to fit in EV charging at their dealers to sell the EV cars.

What is Dodge/Stellantis doing? I haven't heard a peep about dealers needing to pay up to install EV equipment for this new Charger.

Thats a good point. The local CJDR dealer here just did an 8 month long facelift on their building and no chargers in sight. You would think a company going all EV would have the forsight to start somewhere.
Dodge not doing it at all (at least yet) is even worse for their own product.

To the greater problem, putting in charging stations at dealerships is fine but honestly how many can or will they do? 5, 10? In moving to a world where filling up your car or truck took less than 5 minutes to where it takes everyone 20-40 min each, it wont make a dent in alleviating the stress on the system, but will be somewhat helpful I guess in emergencies.

CJDR is seemingly 2+ years behind GM/Ford and all the rest wanting to go full EV. They are probably in the worst position of all. Them pushing in for 100% EV while not being in a position to be there with a plan or product is seemingly suicidal. Either they are going to try to play catch up, or pretending to publicly do so, while behind closed doors they take the Toyota route who is NOT pushing all in on EV at the expense of all else and instead putting $$ into better hybrid powertrains and trying to develop alternatives.

WIth Eurocentric Stellantis at the helm I cant help but think they are going to try the all EV route and end up dead in 5 years.

 

[DavidKFla]

Thats a good point. The local CJDR dealer here just did an 8 month long facelift on their building and no chargers in sight. You would think a company going all EV would have the forsight to start somewhere.
Dodge not doing it at all (at least yet) is even worse for their own product.

To the greater problem, putting in charging stations at dealerships is fine but honestly how many can or will they do? 5, 10? In moving to a world where filling up your car or truck took less than 5 minutes to where it takes everyone 20-40 min each, it wont make a dent in alleviating the stress on the system, but will be somewhat helpful I guess in emergencies.

CJDR is seemingly 2+ years behind GM/Ford and all the rest wanting to go full EV. They are probably in the worst position of all. Them pushing in for 100% EV while not being in a position to be there with a plan or product is seemingly suicidal. Either they are going to try to play catch up, or pretending to publicly do so, while behind closed doors they take the Toyota route who is NOT pushing all in on EV at the expense of all else and instead putting $$ into better hybrid powertrains and trying to develop alternatives.

WIth Eurocentric Stellantis at the helm I cant help but think they are going to try the all EV route and end up dead in 5 years.

I'm giving them 36 months.

 

[2ndAmend]

I posted this in another thread but I think it applies here as well:

EV Update:

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2023...eding-red-ink-ford-is-losing-billions-on-evs/

For those of us up north:

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2023...eding-red-ink-ford-is-losing-billions-on-evs/

Does anyone think the pres and Secret Service are looking into replacing their vehicles with EV's?!?!

Of course not, they are for thee but not for me!

 

[2ndAmend]

Free charging stations at dealers is a modern version of what dealers did back-in-the-day. Some dealers would have free annual state inspections, this got you in to hang around for an hour or so and you could spend some of it looking at the new models in the showroom, and then the vultures could pounce...

 

[fumanchu182]

I have may fond memories of swapping in a 3.0 6g72 into my avenger, then i slapped some nitrous on it and blew it the fuck up. man young dumb and full of ... machismo

 

[GNBRETT]

Thats impossible! Durango owners filed a law suit to HALT production of anymore Durango Hellcats...... lmao

HEMI V8 WILL LIVE ON AT DODGE THROUGH THE DURANGO (msn.com)

 

[Jack_Toepfer]

You guys are overlooking the obvious.
The Charger won’t have any doors, it’ll be stood up in cement with a cord hanging off of it. It won’t work most of the time and when it does it won’t work well.
The Charger will plug into the Charger, maybe neither of them will work well, but you can’t have one without the other.
In conversation it will be clear exactly which Charger you’re referring to when you are explaining why you hate them so much.
It will remain abundantly clear on the forum here as to which Charger we are talking about if we start capitalizing all instances of Charger as to make them the same thing…
Charger.

Edit - what I need to do is find an old Xzibit meme where he puts a Charger in your Charger so you can charge while you’re charging.

 

[Magnified]

There will be 2 cars, a 2 door and 4 door. Only problem is, the the 2 door may be the Charger, to match the Charger Daytona EV.

The 4 door, it may be rebranded as the Challenger, both coming out of Windsor

Where is Jimmy?

 

[Jimmy N.]

Where is Jimmy?

In hiding.
Too many four letter (door) words for my liking.

 

[ACMAVRO]

Don't shoot the messenger lol

DODGE STEALTH MIGHT COME BACK, AND MORE FUTURE PRODUCTS FROM THE STELLANTIS DEALER MEETING (msn.com)