Demon 170 vs Lucid Sapphire Air

[Taxinator]

How long before they figure out you still need some styling selling cars no matter how it is powered. I think of the new charger coming and if they would have stayed with the same door lines like the current one how much better it would look then flat sides

I thought the same about the new Charger…very plain compared with the current wide and narrow body Chargers. The sides and rear look aweful.

 

[fumanchu182]

I’m not supporting anyone by going to YouTube channels tired of pay walls

Youtube is free and you can also just click the embedded videos.

In regard to the main video. Why the hell does it blow the tires off every time? Oh wait I know cause it happens to me too... IRS + Torque + Shit Prep.

 

[04Ram2500Hemi]

He’s not wrong. On the perfect day on the perfect track with the perfect sunrise and a rainbow, the Demon 170 is faster.

I didn’t post the video to say one is better than the other. I just thought it was a fun video. I’ve never experienced a 0-60 time in under 3 seconds, and someday I’d like to. It doesn’t mean I want to own an EV, but I wouldn’t mind a few runs in one.

 

[RetiredFirefighter]

The episode failed to address the #1 most important question ....







EVERYONE WANTS A 170 AND NOBODY GIVES A D@MN ABOUT BORING BATTERY MOBILES

 

[DRAGRCR]

Tom Bailey was driving the 170, no slouch and owns a 170 himself but I think he's used to all the aids a custom built race car provides.

Also, if this was filmed in the past couple weeks, DA would have been 3000+ I think.

Filmed at Willow springs on April 22 (backup day on the 23rd) and Famoso on April 24.

 

[Jimmy N.]

How long before they figure out you still need some styling selling cars no matter how it is powered.

Hey, easy there big guy.

They sold quite a few Chargers, didn't they?

 

[04Ram2500Hemi]

The episode failed to address the #1 most important question ....







EVERYONE WANTS A 170 AND NOBODY GIVES A D@MN ABOUT BORING BATTERY MOBILES

Honestly, I don’t want an EV or a Demon 170. What I wanted was a TRX Redeye when it came time to replace my truck, and Ram gave us the RHO (Remove Hellcat Option) instead. Apparently a factory backed warranty 800hp truck on 35’s was asking too much…

 

[Paladin06]

Pretty fun video!

I don’t care!

 

[Paladin06]

Honestly, I don’t want an EV or a Demon 170. What I wanted was a TRX Redeye when it came time to replace my truck, and Ram gave us the RHO (Remove Hellcat Option) instead. Apparently a factory backed warranty 800hp truck on 35’s was asking too much…

I was close to pulling the trigger on a D170. So glad I did not.

 

[Boris]

Same

Dealer wanted 100k over.
I called. It was an auction.
Declined.

Quit the 170 game.
I am watching the market unfold as I thought it would including the wailing and crying that it will be a 200-300k car in a year or so. I don't see the 170 ever being worth that unless another global event takes place that dumps a shit load of cash on the American public.

 

[Bowtie Guy]

Someone listed 2 VIN matched Demons this week
2018
2023
Both trailered from the dealer & still factory miles
Both full options

I seen the add at 375 K & though that a pretty good price ( Canadian )

After reading thru the entire add it was 375 each

&
Goodbye

 

[Speedy!]

Filmed at Willow springs on April 22 (backup day on the 23rd) and Famoso on April 24.

Well, that's not good then since the DA wasn't bad on April 24. That car is slow for some reason even in MPH.

https://airdensityonline.com/track-history/Famoso_Raceway/2024-04-24/

There's a guy on the other forum selling a delivery miles 170 with CF wheels for $140K with an extended warranty right now. It's been for sale for a few days and I think he's gonna put it on BAT since no one on the forum wanted it.

I personally hate the "collector car" hype around the 170. I think it's really stupid from an investment perspective but everyone thinks they have a 1:1 1970 Cuda in the garage lol. Even the delivery miles 2018 Demons people are selling they've all lost money on even if they paid MSRP by the time you account for inflation, insurance, storage, and maintenance. Some Mopar people can be special though.

 

[ButterDaGreat?]

That race was flawed. I broke down in my video a bunch of issues and the timestamps:

1. They didn't use a one seater Demon 170. They used a 2 seater, no carbon wheels, and with the passenger seat still installed which is heavier
2. The car was driven in auto mode WITHOUT the chiller activated at certain times
3. Car was ran with a full tank of gas AND DIDN'T UNLOCK the full 1025hp in certain clips
4. NOT ONE clip ever show the Demon 170 raced in either Drag or Custom mode

 

[04Ram2500Hemi]

That race was flawed. I broke down in my video a bunch of issues and the timestamps:

1. They didn't use a one seater Demon 170. They used a 2 seater, no carbon wheels, and with the passenger seat still installed which is heavier
2. The car was driven in auto mode WITHOUT the chiller activated at certain times
3. Car was ran with a full tank of gas AND DIDN'T UNLOCK the full 1025hp in certain clips
4. NOT ONE clip ever show the Demon 170 raced in either Drag or Custom mode

Lot’s of excuses for the Demon 170…

 

[Paladin06]

That race was flawed. I broke down in my video a bunch of issues and the timestamps:

1. They didn't use a one seater Demon 170. They used a 2 seater, no carbon wheels, and with the passenger seat still installed which is heavier
2. The car was driven in auto mode WITHOUT the chiller activated at certain times
3. Car was ran with a full tank of gas AND DIDN'T UNLOCK the full 1025hp in certain clips
4. NOT ONE clip ever show the Demon 170 raced in either Drag or Custom mode

I really don't care!

 

[Under-Pressure]

Have any of the Radford cars made an 8 second pass?

 

[Speedy!]

I've heard their time slips are wonky and can't be trusted no matter what they read.

 

[Boris]

If Dodge really cared, they would have had a 170 primed and ready to go.

The 170/Challenger era has passed. Any dealer still holding onto them is their own damn fault at this point.

 

[ButterDaGreat?]

Lot’s of excuses for the Demon 170…

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Excuses or clear flaws in a "fair" race not using features the Demon 170 comes with?

I really don't care!

I really don't care about flawed races either!

 

[cole3986]

I don't discriminate, I like them all; EVs and ICE vehicles. Lucid is bleeding money and that was a major factor why I didn't buy an Air. The Demon170 is a lot of fun to drive (so is the 18 Demon). Ron's 170 is not stock, it may have the stock tune but there is some serious weight reduction in his 170 (probably over 100 pounds of sprung and 30 pounds of unsprung