• Sign Up! To view all forums and unlock additional cool features

    Welcome to the #1 Dodge, Jeep and RAM Forum dedicated to FCA owners and enthusiasts. Register for an account, it's free and it's easy, so don't hesitate to join the SRT Forum today!


E85 Tuning Questions

coolblue

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Donating Member
Member ID
#1172
Messages
1,577
Reactions
2,696
Likes
162
City
Long Island
State
NY
Country
United States
Vehicle
2019 Redeye
#61
I’ve asked a couple, got from no to I don’t know. Guess keep asking lol
I’m DS so I can’t play at all :(
I guess if DS means dumb sh%$ (computer ignorant) we're in same boat. LOL
 


hellno

3000 Posts Club
8 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#1308
Messages
3,336
Reactions
5,829
Likes
302
City
memphis
State
TN
Country
United States
Vehicle
2016 challenger hellcat
#62
I guess if DS means dumb sh%$ (computer ignorant) we're in same boat. LOL
I was scared to say it lol
 


16GoManGoHC2

3000 Posts Club
Founding Member
9 Second Best E/T
Member ID
#1139
Messages
3,481
Reactions
8,234
Likes
252
City
Nanticoke
State
PA
Country
United States
Vehicle
2016 Challenger He’ll Cat
#63
DiabloSport dumb shit lol
 


curt_dusterhofftuning

Member
Vendor
Founding Member
Member ID
#1146
Messages
61
Reactions
116
Likes
17
City
Big Canoe
State
GA
Country
United States
#64
Forgive my ignorance im old and trying to learn, which is a chore lol.
I purchased curts level 2 package slightly used from hellno. Great guy by the way. Anyway it consists of
Listens 2.85 pulley
Fic 775 injectors I have to get a 180 stat
I also have blower spacers and thermo blanket

Question.
1. Will this setup support curt's flex fuel tune?
2. If a flex tune reads 93 to e85 why do people go
With a separate 85 tune
3. If my setup won't support a flex tune what else
Will I need?
1. You're going to need drop-in pumps and larger injectors to go flex.
2. Some people go e85 only because they want to run more boost than is safe on pump gas. Also, the flex-fuel tuning is great but it's only accurate to about 10%. As a result, I have to play it a little safe on the tune. What this means is, typically an e85 only tune will perform slightly better at the track. Most would never know the difference but for someone doing a lot of racing, it's worth doing a straight e85 tune.
 


curt_dusterhofftuning

Member
Vendor
Founding Member
Member ID
#1146
Messages
61
Reactions
116
Likes
17
City
Big Canoe
State
GA
Country
United States
#65
No way in HP Tuners to limit throttle output % compared to pedal position?
HPT in 17 mustang platform my buddy (M6 also) can limit throttle % by gear.
That can’t be done in Dodge platform in HPT? Even as a whole across the board if not by gear.
View attachment 6569
Not sure I understand the question? Yes you can limit throttle opening voltage by rpm.
 


Speedy!

Infomercial Producer
Staff Team
Founding Member
U.S. Marine Veteran
9 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM & HFCOTY
Member ID
#1070
Messages
6,699
Reactions
17,216
Likes
402
City
Interwebs
State
TN
Country
United States
Vehicle
Demon 170
#66
@curt_dusterhofftuning I think he's trying to limit boost by gear. So as an example in 1st gear in his M6 he gets 7psi to limit the chances of blowing the tires off, shift to second he gets 11psi, shift to third he gets 100% boost available. At least I think that's what he's trying to do.
 


curt_dusterhofftuning

Member
Vendor
Founding Member
Member ID
#1146
Messages
61
Reactions
116
Likes
17
City
Big Canoe
State
GA
Country
United States
#67
@curt_dusterhofftuning I think he's trying to limit boost by gear. So as an example in 1st gear in his M6 he gets 7psi to limit the chances of blowing the tires off, shift to second he gets 11psi, shift to third he gets 100% boost available. At least I think that's what he's trying to do.
Definitely not possible on factory electronics. You can limit throttle position or even pull spark by rpm and mph but not boost by gear.
 


16GoManGoHC2

3000 Posts Club
Founding Member
9 Second Best E/T
Member ID
#1139
Messages
3,481
Reactions
8,234
Likes
252
City
Nanticoke
State
PA
Country
United States
Vehicle
2016 Challenger He’ll Cat
#68
Thanks Speedy, your on track with the reason and yes that’s one way of doing it boost but I was thinking maybe just limit throttle opening by gear, I think this because it’s what my buddy does with his 800 wheel M6 Mustang and it helps him better manage launches. A parameter that can be tweaked depending on conditions. Say like 40% throttle in first, 50 % in second, 75 in third, Tweak and find a sweet spot then 100% for the rest of gears
Or by what ever means possible to try and keep from breaking the tires loose, I don’t think rpm is going to do it, I need to reduce power as making 600 ft lbs of torque right off idle helping to stay hooked is probably more relevant to throttle, boost, timing more then rpm.
Thanks all for giving this some thought
 


hellno

3000 Posts Club
8 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#1308
Messages
3,336
Reactions
5,829
Likes
302
City
memphis
State
TN
Country
United States
Vehicle
2016 challenger hellcat
#69
64017402-91B8-4E17-970D-65A75B4D5AEF.jpeg 64017402-91B8-4E17-970D-65A75B4D5AEF.jpeg If you guys want to go faster add this sticker
 


hellno

3000 Posts Club
8 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#1308
Messages
3,336
Reactions
5,829
Likes
302
City
memphis
State
TN
Country
United States
Vehicle
2016 challenger hellcat
#70
I wish I had just went straight to e85 in the first place ,better fuel and so much more power ,,you guys need to hit CURT@DUSTEROFF TUNING up on the e85 packages ,here a snippet of the results you can expect ,one of my runs at beech bend this weekend
 


hellno

3000 Posts Club
8 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#1308
Messages
3,336
Reactions
5,829
Likes
302
City
memphis
State
TN
Country
United States
Vehicle
2016 challenger hellcat
#71
tire lifting results and awesome 1/4 mile speeds

 


coolblue

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Donating Member
Member ID
#1172
Messages
1,577
Reactions
2,696
Likes
162
City
Long Island
State
NY
Country
United States
Vehicle
2019 Redeye
#72
tire lifting results and awesome 1/4 mile speeds

Really get more of a feel of the acceleration and speed on 2cnd vid. Nice!
 


hellno

3000 Posts Club
8 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#1308
Messages
3,336
Reactions
5,829
Likes
302
City
memphis
State
TN
Country
United States
Vehicle
2016 challenger hellcat
#73
Really get more of a feel of the acceleration and speed on 2cnd vid. Nice!
and my cats a fat cat no weight reduction but this off seasons shes going on a diet
gonna l:p:pk sexy as hell :LOL::ROFLMAO:
 


coolblue

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Donating Member
Member ID
#1172
Messages
1,577
Reactions
2,696
Likes
162
City
Long Island
State
NY
Country
United States
Vehicle
2019 Redeye
#74
and my cats a fat cat no weight reduction but this off seasons shes going on a diet
gonna l:p:pk sexy as hell :LOL::ROFLMAO:
Carbon fiber?
 


hellno

3000 Posts Club
8 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#1308
Messages
3,336
Reactions
5,829
Likes
302
City
memphis
State
TN
Country
United States
Vehicle
2016 challenger hellcat
#75
ive got a few things on order to reduce weight ill share later in my timeslip thread
id replace the hood but that billet silver is just so fast :)
 


hellno

3000 Posts Club
8 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#1308
Messages
3,336
Reactions
5,829
Likes
302
City
memphis
State
TN
Country
United States
Vehicle
2016 challenger hellcat
#76
that DUSTEROFF sticker looks good on the silver
 


coolblue

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Donating Member
Member ID
#1172
Messages
1,577
Reactions
2,696
Likes
162
City
Long Island
State
NY
Country
United States
Vehicle
2019 Redeye
#77
ive got a few things on order to reduce weight ill share later in my timeslip thread
id replace the hood but that billet silver is just so fast :)
Drove my first RE today. Salesmen was a total newbie(3yrs selling was never in a Hellcat!). So we take it out with the red key (supposedly) but he doesn't know its in eco mode. Car was a turd. I opened it up on the service road. Told'm my 6.1 would kick this things ass U sure u got it in red mode?
any way we get back and what they offer me for trade in was a joke. Guess I'll be modding the 6.1 a little more. LOL. Def didn't accelerate like that! Total disappiontment.
 


16GoManGoHC2

3000 Posts Club
Founding Member
9 Second Best E/T
Member ID
#1139
Messages
3,481
Reactions
8,234
Likes
252
City
Nanticoke
State
PA
Country
United States
Vehicle
2016 Challenger He’ll Cat
#78
I wish I had just went straight to e85 in the first place ,better fuel and so much more power ,,you guys need to hit CURT@DUSTEROFF TUNING up on the e85 packages ,here a snippet of the results you can expect ,one of my runs at beech bend this weekend
NICE launch and pull, yep 2nd video really showed the acceleration better
What was your 60’?
The Torque corn makes is amazing, I wish E85 would come to my area :(
You dyno it? Curious what you made?
 


16GoManGoHC2

3000 Posts Club
Founding Member
9 Second Best E/T
Member ID
#1139
Messages
3,481
Reactions
8,234
Likes
252
City
Nanticoke
State
PA
Country
United States
Vehicle
2016 Challenger He’ll Cat
#79
I just ordered these for Christmas, 20” DR’s will be for hunting to and from the track
5B77ED32-440D-4CCC-9313-A1B97A99A9C1.png DB588EAB-381A-4EA7-B87C-026CBF1BE337.png
 


hellno

3000 Posts Club
8 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#1308
Messages
3,336
Reactions
5,829
Likes
302
City
memphis
State
TN
Country
United States
Vehicle
2016 challenger hellcat
#80
ive
NICE launch and pull, yep 2nd video really showed the acceleration better
What was your 60’?
The Torque corn makes is amazing, I wish E85 would come to my area :(
You dyno it? Curious what you made?
never dynode it I was cutting 1.44 60 ft guess you could say I go by 1/4 mile power we ran 9.77,9.75 and a 9.73 and we were losing fuel pressure in the process bleeding boost and car was going into safe mode ,both my fpdms went out if all goes well and we race this week I plan on seeing 9.6 or even a high 9,5
 




Top