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[1971demon]

Thats how the nightmare began. I did exactly
that. Next thing you know he’s telling me how I’m only there for the discounted deal they were offering online. Basically calling me cheap.That was their big sell. Offer below Msrp on new Wranglers but then try and make it up by pressuring you on the extras. I said “You're right, we flew here at our expense for the deal. If I wanted to pay more, I could have bought one in my hometown and not paid for two flight tickets”. Never seen anything like it and im in the business. He was relentless and if I had a vehicle there already we definitely would have left. Had to tell him this was a toy, not a necessity, and we certainly didn’t need a $70,000 Wrangler, so cut the shit or we were leaving. Almost three yrs later it still pisses me off.

I get it..while not in the business..I have many friends that are..one in particular is a F&I guy for a multiplex dealer...he does extremely well...works insane hrs.long after the dealer closes...ownership is on him constantly...grinding him to wring every dollar outta a customers wallet...it's a high stress job..and ownership s relentless..it's never enough...he makes a TON of money..(high volume dealership)..and I believe he gets a percentage of all the packages he sells...which are mainly bullshit he says

 

[DavidKFla]

Thats how the nightmare began. I did exactly
that. Said no at least 15 times and counting. He was actually getting mad and demanding to know why. Next thing you know he’s telling me how I’m only there for the discounted deal they were offering online. Basically calling me cheap.That was their big sell. Offer below Msrp on new Wranglers but then try and make it up by pressuring you on the extras. I said “You're right, we flew here at our expense for the deal. If I wanted to pay more, I could have bought one in my hometown and not paid for two flight tickets”. Never seen anything like it and im in the business. He was relentless and if I had a vehicle there already we definitely would have left. Had to tell him this was a toy, not a necessity, and we certainly didn’t need a $70,000 Wrangler, so cut the shit or we were leaving. Almost three yrs later it still pisses me off.

I had an issue with a local Ford dealership. Ordered a F150 with the Xplan. Truck came in and the manager came over and started complaining about them not making any money.
I told him that he was full of shit and I know how they get paid. He continued and I told him that I had to think about it and left.
The salesman called me, who is a friend's son and I told him I wasn't taking the truck.

 

[DavidKFla]

I get it..while not in the business..I have many friends that are..one in particular is a F&I guy for a multiplex dealer...he does extremely well...works insane hrs.long after the dealer closes...ownership is on him constantly...grinding him to wring every dollar outta a customers wallet...it's a high stress job..and ownership s relentless..it's never enough...he makes a TON of money..(high volume dealership)..and I believe he gets a percentage of all the packages he sells...which are mainly bullshit he says

This is why I never took a management position when I was in the car business. I always said that it was just 1 seat closer to the door.

 

[1971demon]

This is why I never took a management position when I was in the car business. I always said that it was just 1 seat closer to the door.

It's a tough..(sometimes dirty business)

 

[DavidKFla]

It's a tough..(sometimes dirty business)

It was very difficult finding a dealership to work at because of this. The 1 place that I felt was legit, the GM was arrested for stealing money because of his gambling addiction.

 

[Boris]

Aren’t you the same place that quoted me a Demon 170 for 100k over sticker? 😡 PASS

Yup
They were willing to bend you over for the desirable stuff.
They can eat the EV shit.

And I second Slowpoke's experience. I was trying to get a deal done on a HC and kept getting screwed around.
Terrible place to buy a car from IMO

 

[1971demon]

This is why I never took a management position when I was in the car business. I always said that it was just 1 seat closer to the door.

In a large dealership..with a great location...I would think "used" car sales is where I would wanna be...a good used car guy generally makes more than new car sales...

 

[DavidKFla]

In a large dealership..with a great location...I would think "used" car sales is where I would wanna be...a good used car guy generally makes more than new car sales...

I always sold both and preferred smaller stores. The big ones think they can use you up and spit you out, in my opinion.

 

[1971demon]

I always sold both and preferred smaller stores. The big ones think they can use you up and spit you out, in my opinion.

Probably so..but a larger high volume store generally has a higher advertising budget..and more floor traffic

 

[1971demon]

It was very difficult finding a dealership to work at because of this. The 1 place that I felt was legit, the GM was arrested for stealing money because of his gambling addiction.

Well questionable GM...was he @ least a good poker player

 

[DavidKFla]

Probably so..but a larger high volume store generally has a higher advertising budget..and more floor traffic

I worked at both and made better money at the smaller store. Their pay plan was better, I could work decent hours and spend more time with family.

 

[DavidKFla]

Well questionable GM...was he @ least a good poker player

Not sure what he was betting on but he was selling trade ins and keeping the money for his gambling debts. Almost bankrupted the store. Ended up being over a million dollars they said.

 

[Unholy707]

I was being upsold and asked life history for Chrysler capitol even though came in preapproved. Tried selling me tire package, 84 months and way higher than I was expecting to be ripped off. Told the guy he was crazy, goodbye. Stood up to walk out, all of a sudden it’s “wait wait this one just came in”. Magically at the terms I wanted. Interesting how that works. Not here, but all finance managers are like this. They will rip you off and make you feel bad for not letting them rip you off

 

[DavidKFla]

I was being upsold and asked life history for Chrysler capitol even though came in preapproved. Tried selling me tire package, 84 months and way higher than I was expecting to be ripped off. Told the guy he was crazy, goodbye. Stood up to walk out, all of a sudden it’s “wait wait this one just came in”. Magically at the terms I wanted. Interesting how that works. Not here, but all finance managers are like this. They will rip you off and make you feel bad for not letting them rip you off

I walk if they start that shit.